Comments on: SQL Server Collation. An enemy or a friend? http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/ Talk about Technologies, Software Architecture and Management Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:41:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Serguei Dosyukov http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-12027 Serguei Dosyukov Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:28:34 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-12027 <p>Where do you see it? You confuse two operations: * adjustment of the collation of the user database - this is done by the ALTER DATABASE statement. And yes, it works for 2000, 2005 and 2008. It may be good idea to mention that it is very useful operation when you restore database from the server which has different colation then the target to bring it in sync. * adjustment of the collation of the master database - this is done using rebuild process mentioned in second part of the post. These operations are not linked together per se. First do just that - modifies user database collation. But without second, any NEW database would have collation inherited from master database.</p> Where do you see it? You confuse two operations:

* adjustment of the collation of the user database – this is done by the ALTER DATABASE statement. And yes, it works for 2000, 2005 and 2008. It may be good idea to mention that it is very useful operation when you restore database from the server which has different colation then the target to bring it in sync.
* adjustment of the collation of the master database – this is done using rebuild process mentioned in second part of the post.

These operations are not linked together per se. First do just that – modifies user database collation. But without second, any NEW database would have collation inherited from master database.

]]> By: Deanna McMurray http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-12026 Deanna McMurray Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:10:28 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-12026 I am still a bit confused--the post that you refer to on social.mdsn.microsoft.com seems to imply you need to still reload all of your user data from a db with the old collation to one with the new collation--this is what I wish to avoid. Do you have any personal experience with seeing if a reattached database will pick up the new collation of a server? I am still a bit confused–the post that you refer to on social.mdsn.microsoft.com seems to imply you need to still reload all of your user data from a db with the old collation to one with the new collation–this is what I wish to avoid. Do you have any personal experience with seeing if a reattached database will pick up the new collation of a server?

]]> By: Serguei Dosyukov http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-12025 Serguei Dosyukov Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:52:29 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-12025 <p>Per discussion <a href="http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqldatabaseengine/thread/ab266beb-5618-4f3a-bd4b-b9fdc7f02344" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms179254.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">here</a>, method does work for 2008. There you also can find some additional params.</p> Per discussion here and here, method does work for 2008. There you also can find some additional params.

]]> By: Deanna McMurray http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-12024 Deanna McMurray Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:38:17 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-12024 Hello, I also need to change the collation for a SQL Server 2008 server. So it is true that by detaching a user db, then rebuilding master as directeed about (and as part of rebuilding master resetting a new server collation) and then once this is complete then reattaching the user database will then change the user database's collation to match the new server collation? Can you verify this? I had seen on some SQL 2000 documentation that an attached database will retain the collation of the original source database--this seems to imply this has changed in SQL 2005/2008--that it somehow is set to the new server collation level. If you could verify you have done this successfully I would appreciate it. Thanks. Hello, I also need to change the collation for a SQL Server 2008 server. So it is true that by detaching a user db, then rebuilding master as directeed about (and as part of rebuilding master resetting a new server collation) and then once this is complete then reattaching the user database will then change the user database’s collation to match the new server collation? Can you verify this? I had seen on some SQL 2000 documentation that an attached database will retain the collation of the original source database–this seems to imply this has changed in SQL 2005/2008–that it somehow is set to the new server collation level. If you could verify you have done this successfully I would appreciate it.
Thanks.

]]> By: Serguei Dosyukov http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-11775 Serguei Dosyukov Sat, 02 May 2009 19:02:06 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-11775 I have extended the post to add 2005 and 2008 alternatives I have extended the post to add 2005 and 2008 alternatives

]]> By: Steve Allen http://blog.dragonsoft.us/2008/04/15/sql-server-collation-an-enemy-or-a-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-11774 Steve Allen Sat, 02 May 2009 18:30:16 +0000 http://blog.dragonsoft.us/?p=167#comment-11774 <strong>I understand rebuildm.exe is not supported in sql 2005. Is there an alternative? </strong> I understand rebuildm.exe is not supported in sql 2005. Is there an alternative?

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